Well, having replace the wax seals on both toilets (due to their leaking whenever flushed and adding to the odors of the house), I discovered they were not bolted down.
The flanges the bolts connect to are either (a) buried so that you can't get a new bolt in, or (b) broken off entirely!
So at some point we need to take the floors up and replace the flanges.
At least the eau-de-toilet is no longer adding to the ambiance.
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